new super 8 stock

Kodachrome K40 and Ektachrome

Because Kodachrome is pretty dead (sob), many people are wondering if their camera can take the new 100D Ektachrome or maybe other filmstock.

Filmspeeds for common reversal super-8 films are mostly marked for artificial light (without wratten filter - 85). For daylight you must use this filter, which reduces the amount of light passing onto the film surface. This is the reason why the same film “has different filmspeeds”.


The cameras that only allow 40 or 160 ASA tungsten -25 or 100 daylight- are now only useable with B&W film stocks (f.e. Kodak TRI-X 160 ASA tungsten, PLUS-X 100 ASA daylight). Inserting a 64t cartridge into one of these cameras will most likely result in one of two possibilities: an underexposure due to the camera metering for 160 ASA film loaded or an overexposure due to the camera metering for 40 ASA. However... if you don't try, you'll never know. I've read stories about the 64t coming out fine out of these 40/160 ASA camera's. Maybe it's worth a try... It's also possible to use an ND filter to compensate. Look in the table at the end of this page (scroll down) to read about this.

Ektachrome 100D and your camera

Some older cameras loaded with Ektachrome 100D may automatically set the exposure to ISO 160. In many situations, results at an ISO 160 exposure setting (approx. 1/2 stop underexposed) would still be acceptable. The majority of super-8 cameras made prior to 1970 came with a fixed film exposure setting of ISO 40. At an ISO 40 exposure setting (approx. 1 1/4 stop overexposed), this film would require either the use of a neutral density filter (0.3 ND) or process E-6 'Pull Processing' to compensate for this overexposure. Prior to exposing the film at an ISO 40 setting, verify with your developing laboratory that they offer the appropriate E-6 'Pull Process.' Want to know more info about the Ektachrome 100D Color Reversal Film 7285? Download Kodak's Ektachrome 100d technical data sheets (PDF).

Cartridge notches

If you want to know more about how cameras 'read' different types of super-8 cartridges, this article about super-8 cartridge notches is extremely helpful.

List of super-8 camera's and ASA settings

Here is a list of camera's with ASA settings and specifications. If you don't have a manual, maybe you can find some info here.

You can click on the names to search for them in auctions.

Beaulieu cameras

Beaulieu: 2008 / 3008 / 4008 / 5008 / 6008 / 7008 / 9008 -> manual ASA setting, big range.

Beaulieu 4008 ZM 4 Beaulieu 4008
Beaulieu 4008 ZM IV (2 fps up to 80 fps slow-motion !)

Bolex cameras

Bolex 150 / 155 / 160 (macrozoom)

Bolex 581 (manual adjustment of the aperture possible or with +/- correction)
Tungsten: ISO 40, 160
Daylight: ISO 25, 100

Chinon 674 / 872 / Pacific 310

Nizo 481 / 561 / 801 / Professional (25 fps. instead of 24):
Tungsten: ISO 16 to 160 (recommended camera's!)
Daylight: ISO 10 to 100

manual / auto zoom with 2 speeds; 6, 18, 24, 56 + single frame; shutter degree: var. (expose one frame as long as you want!!)


 Nizo 801 Nizo 801
Nizo 801 (same as 481 & 561, only different lens. Has the automated B-function with which you can film the moon f.e.)

 

Nizo 1048 / 2056 / 3048 / 4080 / 6080
Tungsten: ISO 40, 64, 100, 160, 250, 400 and 640
Daylight: ISO 25, 40, 64 , 100, 160, 250 and 400

Nizo 6080
Nizo 6080

Nizo 136 / 148 / 156 (manual adjustment possible! See chart below)
Tungsten: ISO 40, 160 and 250
Daylight: ISO 25, 100 and 160

Canon super 8 cameras


Canon: 512 (XL) / 518 / 814 / 1014 / Canon 1014XL-S / 1218:
Tungsten: ISO 25, 40, 64 , 100, 160, 250 and 400
Daylight: ISO 16, 25, 40, 64 , 100, 160 and 250

Canon 512 XL
Canon 512 XL

Canon Auto Zoom 814 Electronic
Canon Auto Zoom 814 Electronic

Canon Auto Zoom 1014 Electronic
Canon Auto Zoom 1014 Electronic

 

Canon 1014 XL-S Canon 1014 XL-S
Canon 1014 XL-S (1, 9, 18, 24, 36 fps and interval)

Canon Zoom 250:
Tungsten type film: ISO 25, 40, 64, 100 and 160
Daylight type film: ISO 16, 25, 40, 64 and 100

Canon 310 / 312 / 514 (XL & XL-S, for this one, see Kodak chart below, scroll down):
Tungsten: ISO 40, 160 and 250
Daylight: ISO 25, 100 and 160
note: If you want to buy one of these, on youtube are lots of samples, shot with 100D in one of these. Also I spoke with someone who successfully shot a roll of 64T with her Canon 310 XL. I've seen the pictures and it came out nice. She filmed indoors and outdoors with it. Try a roll before shooting your feature!

Canon 310 XL Canon 310 XL
Canon 310 XL (F/1.0 XL eXtended Light aperture )

Bauer:Bauer Royal C 6 / 8 / 10 (not to be confused with the Royal E serie):
Tungsten: ISO 25 to 160
Daylight: ISO 40 to 200

Bauer Royal Super 8 camera Bauer Royal C 10
Bauer Royal C 10

Bauer C 107 / 109 / S 204 / S 207 / S 209 XL / C Royal 6, 8 and 10 E
Tungsten: ISO 40, 160
Daylight: ISO 25, 100

Cosina DL-80P / SSL 766 Macro / SSL 768 Macro / SSL 7610 Macro / MS-5000 XL

Cosina DL-40P, DL-60P (manual adjustment possible! 2/3 stops less than the meter suggests)

Elmo Super 104 / 106 / 108 / 110
Tungsten: ISO 25, 40, 64, 100, 160 & 250
Daylight: ISO 16, 25, 40, 64 , 100 & 160

Elmo 104 Elmo 104
Elmo 104 (18, 24 fps and single frame)

Elmo 612S-XL / 1012S-XL
Tungsten: ISO 40, 160
Daylight: ISO 25, 100

Eumig Viennette 3 / 5


Eumig Viennette
Eumig Viennette 5

 

GAF ST/111E / ST/802 / ST/1002
Tungsten type film: ISO 25, 40, 64, 100, 160 and 250
Daylight type film: ISO 16, 25, 40, 64 and 100

Nikon, All Nikons, R10 and R8, measure properly.

Leicina Special / RT-1

Minolta all Minolta Autopaks

Porst ZRS 448 Reflex
Tungsten: ISO 25, 40, 64, 100, 160 & 250
Daylight: ISO 16, 25, 40, 64 , 100 & 160

Ricoh 800Z
Tungsten: ISO 25, 40, 64, 100, 160 & 250
Daylight: ISO 16, 25, 40, 64 , 100 & 160

Yashica SUPER-600 Electro
Tungsten: ISO 25, 40, 64, 100, 160 & 250
Daylight: ISO 16, 25, 40, 64 , 100 & 160
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Here is a list from Kodak's website about reading the 64t notch.

Ektrachrome 64T is no longer manufactured, so this is for reference only if you happen to buy some old stock. If you want to know if your camera can take the 100D, scroll up or download Kodak's Ektachrome 100d technical data sheets (PDF).

CAMERA

 
TYPE
EXPOSURE
COMPENSATION METHOD
ACTUAL EXPOSURE
Bauer S715XL, S709XL Manual Aperture adjust 40T - misreading notch Adjust aperture to be 2/3 stop less than 40T 64T
Beaulieu 1008 XL Manual Aperture adjust 40T - misreading notch Adjust aperture to be 2/3 stop less than 40T 64T
Chinon 200/8 XL Pacific Manual Aperture adjust 40T - misreading notch Adjust aperture to be 2/3 stop less than 40T 64T
Cosina DL-40P, DL-60P Manual Aperture adjust 40T - misreading notch Adjust aperture to be 2/3 stop less than 40T 64T
Elmo 1012s-xl, 612s-xl Manual Aperture adjust 40T - misreading notch Adjust aperture to be 2/3 stop less than 40T 64T
Minolta XL-401 and XL-601 Manual Aperture adjust 40T - misreading notch Adjust aperture to be 2/3 stop less than 40T 64T
Nizo compact series 136, 148 and more Manual Aperture adjust 40T - misreading notch Adjust aperture to be 2/3 stop less than 40T 64T
Sankyo ES 66-xl, ES 44-xl and more Manual Aperture adjust 40T - misreading notch Adjust aperture to be 2/3 stop less than 40T 64T
GAF 505 XLM Manual exposure comp 40T - misreading notch Adjust exposure dial by -2/3 stop 64T
Bolex 160 EE Lock-Int Light meter 40T - misreading notch Point camera at object to make the aperture 2/3 stop less open, press the EE lock. 64T
Bolex 350 Macro Compact EE Lock-Int Light meter 40T - misreading notch Point camera at object to make the aperture 2/3 stop less open, press the EE lock 64T
Canon 514XL, 514XL-S (cameras thinks 160 ASA T) EE Lock-Int Light meter 160T - can't see notch Point camera at object to make aperture 1, 1/3 stop more open,press the EE lock 64T
Bolex 350 Macro Compact Manual exposure control 160T - can't see notch Adjust exposure dial by+1 stop 80T *
Kodak M2, M22 Manual exposure 40T - misreading notch 0.2ND on lens (-2/3 stop exp comp) 64T
Agfa Microflex series No controls 40T - misreading notch 0.2ND on lens (-2/3 stop exp comp) 64T
Canon AF310XL and AF310XL-S No controls 40T - misreading notch 0.2ND on lens (-2/3 stop exp comp) 64T
Eumig Mini 5 No controls 40T - misreading notch 0.2ND on lens (-2/3 stop exp comp) 64T
Kodak XL series External light meters 40T - misreading notch 0.2ND on lens (-2/3 stop exp comp) 64T
Canon 310XL External light meters 40T - misreading notch 0.2ND on lens (-2/3 stop exp comp) 64T
Eumig Nautica External light meters 40T - misreading notch 0.2ND on lens (-2/3 stop exp comp) 64T
* +1 and 1/3 stops is not possible on this camera so closest available is + 1 stop, which results in -1/3 under